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Post by KnightusMaximus on Feb 12, 2007 6:42:50 GMT -5
(Thanks Toichi for saving her post, a glitch occured - it's not a double post, that was from magicbulletgirl for anyone reading)
Just an addition... he did live with his father after his mother's death (10 years ago), probably right up until he went "overseas" (maybe 4 years ago). So assumedly he was close to his father for a while.
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Post by Toichi on Feb 12, 2007 7:25:32 GMT -5
I taught it was a moderator's special deleting option to ban me for double posting. ;D Anyway can anyone translate this. I believe this is for the next file. So far Wordings Ara, [kanji] kichiyatsu no ne
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Post by Kentaru on Feb 12, 2007 8:10:45 GMT -5
Nope, last week's message. Geez, people never do realize Ai comments the actual file - do they? <.<
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Post by queen misanagi on Feb 12, 2007 9:23:46 GMT -5
@ kinns: yey! i'd like it if KID would be back too!!!!! ;D @ everyone: since eisuke appeared, i found him suspicious. it's evident that he's hiding something..... hmmmm... (maybe he's gay? kidding! )
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Post by latexcretaceous on Feb 12, 2007 17:11:09 GMT -5
When I read Jodie's account of what happened to Hondou Ethan, the first thought that popped into my head was "That homeless guy is Vermouth."
Is that completely out of the question? The homeless guy's account of what happened tallies with what Gin told everyone in the car a few volumes back, and there's no reason why Gin and Vermouth would conspire to lie about that (?), so I feel safe in assuming that part's true. But we only have his word on the stuff that happened before Gin got there.
Might Vermouth have heard/seen something between Rena and Ethan that made her suspect that Rena was a NOC? And then left out whatever she'd heard when she gave her statement? That, of course, raises the question of why she'd give a statement in the first place. Maybe she wanted the FBI to think that Rena actually is a member of the BO--to steer them away from the truth or turn their energies against her (if that's so then it seems to have worked).
I guess if she was the homeless guy, another question would be "Did Gin know she was there?" Because, as Haibara said, it just seems so careless of Gin and Vodka to completely miss a witness. Gin is pretty sharp about that sort of thing. Then again, so is Vermouth, so I guess she could have hidden. And if she did see/hear something suspicious about Rena it doesn't look like she told him--I don't think he reacted to Vermouth's knocking on Kir's bike, did he? Vermouth does tend to keep things to herself. Although she and Gin are weird around each other, so there's no telling what Gin knows/suspects, I guess.
And burning buildings down...did Gin actually say he did it? As Jodie said, it was just like what happened to her, and I wouldn't put it past Vermouth herself to have done it on her way out to make that statement.
Sorry if I've missed something that would make this theory impossible. There's a lot of good stuff being said and I wanted to jump in. ^^
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Post by Kentaru on Feb 12, 2007 17:19:39 GMT -5
Only one thing: supposing Vermouth was the vagabond, don't you think the FBI would see through her disguise and arrest her? Jodie and Akai know her pretty well by now. They've already seen through two of her disguises. One in NYC, another during the Haloween Party arc.
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Post by queen misanagi on Feb 13, 2007 10:14:02 GMT -5
question: is the homeless guy aka witness the same homeless guy in the 10th movie? (they look a lot alike) plus i think the house is the same house as where the first clue was given in the 10th movie.... hmm... pretty suspicious *now paranoid*
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Post by Toichi on Feb 13, 2007 10:25:08 GMT -5
what really private eyes requeim. I will watch right away
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Post by tricks on Feb 13, 2007 10:40:19 GMT -5
question: is the homeless guy aka witness the same homeless guy in the 10th movie? (they look a lot alike) plus i think the house is the same house as where the first clue was given in the 10th movie.... hmm... pretty suspicious *now paranoid* A lot of characters in conan look the same, so i don't think it's the means anything... but jodie said that what happend at that warehouse was 4 years ago...i think it's before both the NY case and what happend at ep 345...and also before sharon's funeral...so jodie couldn't have figured it out...akai might have...but anyway i don't think vermouth is the homeless guy, cause it was before the whole deal with conan and the 'silver bullet melting her heart', so she wasn't really 'rebellious' back then...
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Post by Toichi on Feb 13, 2007 11:00:14 GMT -5
question: is the homeless guy aka witness the same homeless guy in the 10th movie? (they look a lot alike) plus i think the house is the same house as where the first clue was given in the 10th movie.... hmm... pretty suspicious *now paranoid* A lot of characters in conan look the same, so i don't think it's the means anything... but jodie said that what happend at that warehouse was 4 years ago...i think it's before both the NY case and what happend at ep 345...and also before sharon's funeral...so jodie couldn't have figured it out...akai might have...but anyway i don't think vermouth is the homeless guy, cause it was before the whole deal with conan and the 'silver bullet melting her heart', so she wasn't really 'rebellious' back then... Thanks man That cleared up this discussion. I will reply after next file releases.
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Post by kinns911 on Feb 13, 2007 19:36:44 GMT -5
Yeah I read all the Manga I could get a hold of. Many thanks to Knightus for that. Moon ghost was one of my favorite files.
Yeah, I know Vermouth was involved with Toichi's death, unless I missed my guess, I think She's the one that killed him. It makes since, That could be why she's a the favorite. Any ways.
I guess you're right about Rena and the lie detector thing, although, if she had to have plastic surgery chances are that they made her learn the REAL person's habbits and such. But also, it was discovered that Rena's last name is translated as Zero. (is too lazy to look up the spelling for Rena's last name)
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Post by triplelite on Feb 14, 2007 0:47:50 GMT -5
What ever most importantly happened, must be when the homeless witness didn't see it
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Post by Toichi on Feb 14, 2007 2:47:49 GMT -5
Here are spoilers for File 597 In Japanese: ジェイムズが水無が本当に意識不明なのかを確かめるため、院長を呼んでみるが、 爪を強く押したりして反応を見るが、反応がないため、おそらく意識はないだろうとのこと。しかし、コナンと赤井は本当はもう意識が戻っているのでは?と感じている模様? そしてコナンたちが水無の病室から去ると眼を開ける水無...。 そして、黒の組織の潜伏者の容疑がかかっている3人にコナンがビデオカメラを装着して、3人と会話することに。 それをビデオに撮影して、FBIの車に持ち帰ってそれを見るジョディたち。 ジョディとジェイムズは誰が黒の組織か分からないから全員に見張りを着ける必要があるというが、 コナンと赤井は誰が黒の組織のメンバーなのかを見抜いて...!
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Post by kinns911 on Feb 14, 2007 17:45:31 GMT -5
Anyone mind translating that? I can't read Japanese yet. *is ashamed*
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Post by Toichi on Feb 16, 2007 7:01:10 GMT -5
Ok, so the docter concluded after pricking her thumbnail foot that she is still not awake. Either Rena cud feign asleep(a good actor) or the Docter is another Black Org. member but the latter is not possible because the docter remembered that incident where James saved him, when explaining why he didn't fight when said no for EEG.
Now for the fake patients, I still say its the second one,Kusuda Rikumichi san. No I don't have proofs.
But I don't get it Nishiya Chuugo dosen't look suspicious at all. Why?
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