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Post by Kaito on Feb 13, 2006 14:59:37 GMT -5
I was checking my DC manga scan collection and found out that around 2/3 from ALL the scans are screaming "REEDIT MEEEEEE!" And I agree with them. I talked with Kazuha-chan about this, she agrees too XD; I made a list of the scans that in my opinion need redoing. I included files that are: - bad scans - good, but small scans - good scans, but still not good enough. [for example the first appearance of Kid. Good, but could be better... >_>" Or those from Shounen Sunday. Looks like it's printed on bad paper.] - bad translations. - bad text... this for example. I don't want to offence any of you editors, but there are some files, which are edited in that fashion (including some I did) and I think it'd be better if they are made once again. If your opinion is that this isn't really a big deal, I'll agree. *shrug*
Note: I don't consider double pages as a bad quality.
Now. 1. We'll use be using Kevin's manga scans (down for some reason), because he has vol. 1-51 in perfect quality. I asked him and he allows. Also he said he could try to provide us some color pages! ^_^ (Backups of the raws can be downloaded here)
2. Before you start editing something, come here and tell. It'll be a waste if there are twice edited files.
3. Part of the files are pretty old and I doubt we'll be able to find who did them. I suggest that the bad files, done by "known" people, get re-edited by the same people. For example, I'm going to remake chaps from vol.47, which I made before and are in LQ. You get my point?
4. Fonts that can be used are Anime Ace (download here) or Wildwords (PM someone). The title font should be different from the dialogue font. Is it the same font for both in the Japanese? No.... so follow suit. It makes it look a bit nicer too because those dialogue fonts are made to be small.
5. Check grammar - if a line doesn't make sense, you have the right to ask for help - be it a quick translation check or what not.
6. Credits are very important. Use web.archive.org/web/20040605113518/conan.esmartkid.com/manga.html for reference.
Feel free to add or comment something from the above. Or to PM me Thanks to magicbulletgirl for the additions
The list is coming in the next post.
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Post by Kaito on Feb 13, 2006 15:57:17 GMT -5
Files in: RED mean Real Real High PriorityORANGE mean Real High ProrityGREEN mean Normal PriorityPINK mean Not Too High PriorityWHITE mean Not High Priority [those are mostly the Shounen Sunday scans. Since they are pretty big and the edits are good. I guess if they'll be redone, it'll be a lot later.] Sorry for the shitty way of the gradation... I think it's clear enough though. Vol 16 File 04-05 Vol 16 File 06-09 Vol 17 File 03-06 LilConanVol 18 File 03-05 [/color] magicbulletgirl hereVol 18 File 06, 07-10 Knightus, ThLstN hereVol 19 File 01 ThLstNVol 19 File 05-08[/color] KaitoVol 19 File 09-10 [/color] Kaito page 10Vol 20 File 01 [/color] Kaito page 10Vol 20 File 02-06 [/color] Magicbulletgirl page 10Vol 20 File 10[/color] sesfan page 8Vol 21 File 01-03[/color] sesfan page 8Vol 21 File 04-07[/color] cloudnhine [page 17]Vol 21 File 08-10[/color] artage page 8Vol 21 File 11 Magicbulletgirl page 19Vol 22 File 01-03[/color] Magicbulletgirl page 19Vol 22 File 04-07[/color] Magicbulletgirl on page 19Vol 22 File 08-10 xpon pages 12-13Vol 23 File 01-03 mangasearcher [available if anyone wants it] Vol 23 File 04-09[/color] Magicbulletgirl on page 20. 21, 22 and 25 and on 25th page againVol 24 File 03-06 MagicbulletgirlVol 24 File 07-11 [/color] Kentaru page 26Vol 25 File 01-03[/color] ThLstN page 15Vol 25 File 04-08 [/color] ThLstN page 15Vol 25 File 09-11[/color] ThLstN on page 16Vol 26 File 01-07 MagicbulletgirlVol 26 File 08-10 MagicbulletgirlVol 27 File 02-03 [/color] nall page 7 & 9Vol 27 File 04, 05, 06 LilConanVol 27 File 07, 08, 09 Clams page 6Vol 27 File 10 nallVol 28 File 01-02 nallVol 28 File 06-10 [/color] cloudnhine page 17Vol 29 File 03-05 Clams [on page 3]Vol 29 File 06-08[/color] xpon, Magicbulletgirl on page 22Vol 29 File 09-11 KazuhaVol 30 File 01-03 Vol 30 File 04, 05-07 Sky on page 20Vol 30 File 10-11[/color] xpon [on page 24]Vol 31 File 01 xponVol 31 File 05-07 [/color] xpon on page 16Vol 31 File 08-10 [/color] Kaito on page 20 and 22Vol 31 File 11[/color] Kaito on page 24Vol 32 File 01-04 [/color] ocianne hereVol 32 File 08-10 ClamsVol 32 File 11 Vol 33 File 01-02 Vol 33 File 03-06 Magicbulletgirl [page 4]Vol 33 File 07-09 Magicbulletgirl [page 4]Vol 33 File 10-11 Magicbulletgirl hereVol 34 File 01 Magicbulletgirl hereVol 34 File 02-04 [/color] Magicbulletgirl page 6Vol 34 File 05-07 MagicbulletgirlVol 34 File 08-10 Magicbulletgirl hereVol 34 File 11 Magicbulletgirl hereVol 35 File 01-04 [/color] Magicbulletgirl hereVol 35 File 05, 06 KnightusMaximusVol 35 File 08-09 [needs bigger scan] Vol 35 File 11[/s] kcnmttcnn [page 4]Vol 36 File 01-04[/s] kcnmttcnn[page 4]Vol 36 File 05-07[/color] ThLstN on page 18Vol 36 File 08-11 [/color] ThLstN on page 19 and 20 and 21Vol 37 File 01 [/color] ThLstN on page 18Vol 38 File 02 KentaruVol 38 File 08-10 Vol 39 File 01-05 MagicbulletgirlVol 39 File 06-08 xponVol 40 File 01-03 [/color] xpon page 16Vol 40 File 04[/color] xpon on page 25 Vol 40 File 08 Vol 41 File 04-06 from Shounen Sunday [if anyone edits, it should be Clau]Vol 41 File 07-09 from SSVol 41 File 10-11 from SSVol 42 File 01 from SSVol 43 File 01-02 from SSVol 43 File 03-04 from SSVol 43 File 06-11 [Koshien Files. They're actually good, except that the text is done on paint... You think I should take it off the list?]Vol 44 File 01-03 [same as above]Vol 44 File 07-10 from SSVol 45 File 04-05 from SSVol 45 File 06-08 from SSVol 46 File 01 from SSVol 46 File 02-06 from SSVol 46 File 07-11 Kaito Vol 47 File 01-04 Kaito [cuz i screwed it the last time]Vol 47 File 08-11[/color] ThLstN page 9Vol 48 File 01-03[/color] ThLstN on page 18Vol 48 File 04-08[/color] ThLstN, Magicbulletgirl page 18, page 19Vol 48 File 09-10[/color] ThLstN page 10Vol 49 File 01-05[/color] Rika, Knightus Vol 49 File 06-07 Chugoku-jinkoThat was Teh List! After vol 49 I really lost track of the manga, so if anybody else wants, s/he can add v50+. All the reedited files are avaliable on conan.thetrogdor.com/ and conan-magic.com[just thought i had to point it out]
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Post by KnightusMaximus on Feb 13, 2006 16:07:24 GMT -5
Well, here's some of the redone chapters added to the Conan Manga linker <edited>) over the last several weeks.
V9-8, 9, 10 V10-1, 9, 10 V11-1, 5, 6, 7 V12-4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 V13-1, 5, 6, 7 V14-1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 V15-1, 2, 3, 10 V32-5 V37-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 V38-1 V41-1, 2, 3
Btw.. translation modifications were made to volumes 19-9, 26-2, 26-7, 27-9, 29-4, 30-5, 30-7, 32-9, 32-10, and 42-10 online. [those files weren't redone though] Of course V38-2 is being retranslated and redone already.
I would like to recommend files that have Chinese names in the translations, or some other flaw of that sort. It's just my personal opinion, but I would rather read a LQ file than a file with the wrong names or translations. Coincidentally though, pretty much every Conan chapter with Chinese names is LQ anyway. ^^;
Also since the Conan scanlation community is so small, it might be easier to start out if it's focused on a particular group of files sharing a common problem.
edit: oh, I just meant that the one Conan scanlation group seems to be defunct now, and most of the old people are gone. ^^ Small relative to the huge size of the manga.
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Post by Kaito on Feb 13, 2006 16:35:20 GMT -5
Oops, sorry, Knightus... WHEN the heck did you update vols 10-15.... and I DID check soon.... I'm blind... I deleted some stuff, okay... Thank you for telling that, it makes the things easier ^_^
Of course! The Japanese names will but put on place! After all the main goal of the whole operation is to make High Quality Conan Scans, which INcludes right names! *nods firmly*
uhh... it's not that small ^^" and the list isn't complete yet. But yeah, if anybody has the mood, s/he can choose chappies~! Just don't forget to mention it!
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Post by asdfjkl on Feb 13, 2006 23:54:21 GMT -5
can you tell me who is kevin and how/where can i get his high quality scans that you mentioned? imo, volume 42 is probably the best, although am a perfectionist, i think we can some how make it even better! if anything, i can help with the editing, i just need someone to provide good, accurate, grammar+spelling error free with dialouges that make sense.(sometimes the dialouges are just awkward, not that i blame the translators, after all english might not be their first language)
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Post by Kaito on Feb 14, 2006 14:27:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2006 16:40:21 GMT -5
I did those files in Vol. 37 as Jane's translations were accurate. I think those done with Jane translations would be the easiest to get through first as we have many people wanting to edit here. I've already started doing Bloody Valentine and the Missing watch cases and can finish them soon - so could you please put my name down on those?
BTW Yakuza did the vol. 10-15 ^^
Oh and the Tokyo tower bomb case really doesn't need to be redone does it? (Unless we want everything in an anime font ^^...)
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Post by Chugoku-jinko on Feb 14, 2006 21:53:24 GMT -5
Just to let you know vol. 39 file 9-11 I'm editing those. I still need the translations for file 10 and 11 and I'll finish translating file 9. so I don't think we need to reedit those 3 files there.
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Post by Kaito on Feb 15, 2006 0:03:28 GMT -5
@ magicbulletgirl: I added you to the Bloody Valentine... Now if you could tell me which files are the Missing Watch...? ^^;;;; The fonts doesn't matter too much, but I think the Bomb case needs redoing...~ *'am a greedy lil--* =\
@ Chugoku-chan: Okay. ._. but I didn't put 39 09-11 in the list, so you don't have to worry about that ^^"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2006 14:34:47 GMT -5
Missing watch is the case right after 33-7 to 33-9. I like Shin-Ran cases ^^
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Post by Clams on Feb 16, 2006 11:40:51 GMT -5
I'll do the bus jack case. (29-3 thru 29-5)
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Post by Mahotou on Feb 16, 2006 18:21:21 GMT -5
Kaito-neechan, I Edited the second Post and added Clams to the list. (Sry if you dont want people editing that without your permission :3) ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now Comparing your list to what Knightus has on His Site There are some scans that aren't that bad. Do you think you coud make a priority list? Like a list of the ones that really should be redone and a second list for those that aren't that bad (Just an idea :3) And I just really dont see why you need to redo Vol 35 File 8-9... ._. They seem fine to me. :3 Vol 38 File 8-10 is not that small at all either. And there's one that isn't missing anymore! ^^ Its Vol 17 File 10. :3 I can redo Vol 16 File 4-5 or Vol 31 File 1 if you like :3 Now I can get better scans from Kevin's Site. (Cool now I know his name! Its so much easier now! XD) <3 ~Mahotou
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Post by Kaito on Feb 17, 2006 7:54:40 GMT -5
It's okay, Maho-chan, you are free to edit my post ^^ I thought of that idea with the priority list too, and I tried to make it, but it's too much for me ^^; that's why I decided it'd be easier to make it that way, we need to redo them all anyway. When doesn't isn't of a big matter.
They are fine, but why not better? ^^"
I added you to the list, go ahead ^_^
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Post by Mahotou on Feb 17, 2006 15:24:34 GMT -5
It's okay, Maho-chan, you are free to edit my post ^^ I thought of that idea with the priority list too, and I tried to make it, but it's too much for me ^^; that's why I decided it'd be easier to make it that way, we need to redo them all anyway. When doesn't isn't of a big matter. They are fine, but why not better? ^^" I added you to the list, go ahead ^_^ Okays! ^^ No Problem! Thank You! *gets started* :3
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Post by Icka! M. Chif on Feb 17, 2006 21:57:37 GMT -5
Um... Not exactly DC, but would it be possible to add the Magic Kaito scanlations as well? I'm grateful to Jane and the other scanlators, but there's frequently some name mix ups. Such as 'Nakamori' is often 'Nagamori' or 'Nagamouri'. Think there was also a debate about some translations on 'Green Dream', on if Kaito told Megumi to imagine that the audiance were Pumpkins or Streetlamps...
I don't have a lot of free time at the moment, but is there anything I can do to help? Especially on Kid appearances?
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