scion
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Post by scion on Apr 2, 2006 9:50:37 GMT -5
I've seen people talking about how the BO killed Kaito's father, but I'm really confused, I seemed to have missed the chapter.. What really happened? (P.S. May I know the volume of this event please?)
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Post by Mac on Apr 2, 2006 9:52:42 GMT -5
A question better suited for the Kaito Kid forum.
It's pure fan speculation. Kaitou's father was killed by a mysterious criminal syndicate. That's all we know. Saying that its the black organization is pure speculation.
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scion
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Post by scion on Apr 2, 2006 9:54:44 GMT -5
A question better suited for the Kaito Kid forum. It's pure fan speculation. Kaitou's father was killed by a mysterious criminal syndicate. That's all we know. Saying that its the black organization is pure speculation. Oops sorry for that, and thanks for the reply.
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Post by ran1412 on Apr 3, 2006 4:26:50 GMT -5
Really~ I dont know about that.... Who killed his father? A criminal.. I gotta know more about this~ Which volume had mention this incident~
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loveheiji
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Post by loveheiji on Apr 3, 2006 7:47:03 GMT -5
maybe the volume only talk about kaido?(i guess and i did't read about it) ^_^
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Post by Mac on Apr 3, 2006 8:19:11 GMT -5
Its in the beginning of the Magic Kaitou manga, not Detective Conan.
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Post by Icka! M. Chif on Apr 5, 2006 17:47:23 GMT -5
it's in Magic Kaito Volume 3, Chapter 6, "Blue Birthday"
:: SPOILERS ::
You get to meet Snake, the man who shot Toichi, who mistakes Kaito for his father and attempts to kill him. He wears a -dark grey- fedora and trenchcoat, much like Gin and Vodka do.
Since Magic Kaito was drawn well before Detective Conan was, Snake in his grey clothing may have been a precursor to the Black Ops. As it stands, many fans theorise that Snake is from a different branch of the Black Ops, which is how you get 'The Black Ops killed Kaito's Dad'.
-Hope that helps! More information on my Kid reference page. *points to link in sig*
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Post by Mac on Apr 6, 2006 2:53:18 GMT -5
The name alone is good evidence it is not the same organization.
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Post by Icka! M. Chif on Apr 6, 2006 18:49:48 GMT -5
-Which leads to the theory of Different Branches of the B.ops. Sort of the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Snake is primarily a jewel thief who is known for his assassination skills anyway. Our alcoholic B.ops don't deal with jewels. Snake/Jackel also been known to work with a female assassin 'Rose' (see OVA 3 'Crystal Mother'), whose name also doesn't the alcoholic trend either. (unless refering wine and the colour there of, like they did in King of Bandit Jing, where all the characters are named after alcoholic drinks)
It could also be that you have to work your way -up- to an alcoholic name, animals and plants being code names for lower ranking assassins.
But since we don't know that much about the B.ops, anything is possible. *shrugs*
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Post by Mac on Apr 7, 2006 1:36:36 GMT -5
Rose wine? No, that's blush.
It's been shown that lower members just dont have names. Kir had to earn hers, and jumped from no name to alcohol. It would take alot of streching to make Snake and Rose part of the Black Organization.
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Post by Icka! M. Chif on Apr 7, 2006 19:17:19 GMT -5
'Rose' is a term to discribe the colour of the wine. When tasting, It's right in between 'white' and 'light red' wine, which are followed by 'heavy reds' and 'sweet wines'. Which sounds weird, you'd have to talk to my partner about that in depth, he's the wine connoisseur. It would take alot of streching to make Snake and Rose part of the Black Organization. Not really.... Ysabet, Becky Tailweaver and I all came up with that same theory independantly. Was a big shock to realise that we'd all thought up the same thing. ~_^ But then we're fanfic writers. S'what we do.
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Post by Mac on Apr 8, 2006 2:57:25 GMT -5
Oh, the theory is possible, but the manga just doesnt give any evidence. The dress code and naming system are both wrong, and we've learned that those without an alcohol name just go by their normal name. Animal/plant names arent an intermediary. Nor does their seem to be a division, as both Tequila and Vodka have worked on various things, and Akemi the bank robber didnt get her own biology name.
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Post by Kentaru on Apr 8, 2006 10:04:41 GMT -5
Btw. did any of you notice how *much* Tequila and Snake look alike? and also, the President of Nantendo in v.12 looked like Snake's chief (who seems to be right under the 'anokata' of MK) we get to meet in 'Blue Birthday' in MK v.3, didn't he?
Supposing there are two organizations and not one. maybe the bosses are sons of the weathy old man who died in vol.30, Karasuma Renya and the organization he lead was split at his death(<I believe kosaginolegion mentioned that possibility) - both sons trying to bring him back 'from the stream of time'; one with a gem, another with a drug.
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