Kids Card Gun

[magicianreivil]

Nah!! he wouldn't kill anyone, even the guys who killed his father he is 2 kind!!!

Anyways I believe that the cards that Kaitou shot are also created with the same material as the roses of Tuxedo Mask (If someone saw Sailor Moon will understand it) XD

[Mari]

Oh yeah, I used to think those roses were made of steel. But the thing is, Tuxedo throws them by hand, and the cards come out from a hole. Maybe they are made of um... Strecthy metal?

[magicianreivil]

hattoriheiji said:

Oh yeah, I used to think those roses were made of steel. But the thing is, Tuxedo throws them by hand, and the cards come out from a hole. Maybe they are made of um... Strecthy metal?

Could be, Well I got a new mystery in my life XD

[c0dy]

nah, it's impossible...
that gun can't people isn't it....

[KID]

Masybe

[Tengu]

There's a show called Mythbusters in the US . . . they test common sayings and believed facts scientifically. In one episode that I happened to see, they *did* test playing cards being thrown at high velocities. At the highest speeds, as mentioned by Mac, the cards could not penetrate human skin. (One of the men actually had it tried on him, and the most that it created was a long cut. It did draw blood . . . but the card did not stick into the skin, either, falling harmlessly to the floor. The cards do not have enough mass. Even if they did have metal on them, I'm not sure that scientifically a gun of that size could produce enough power to cut through muscle and bone.

Kid's gun is too small, I think, and not powerful enough to produce those kinds of speeds, so why the gun appears to work is beyond me. Aoyama-san perhaps wasn't checking his facts there? :/ Or it just looked cool and he wanted to put it in. (Because it does look quite cool.)

[Mac]

If the playing cards had a metal edge, then it would have more mass and be sharper, and possibly actually able to hurt somebody. But sticking in concrete? Not so sure about that one.

[Tengu]

I agree there, that it could hurt someone with the metal. Could make a nasty cut, and fairly deep. But I'm still not sure that a gun of that size could produce enough power to make it go into bone. (One would have to go for the neck, I guess?) The contraption that these Mythbusters were making was fairly large to be able to hurl the cards at high enough speeds.

No, definitely not concrete. o.o I just can't see it. Metal of that width would be too flimsy too, I think . . . too easily bent, and people have mentioned previously in the thread that they're flexible. Wouldn't provide enough pressure on impact, I suspect.

[Icka! M. Chif]

Wow. Thanks for the info, Tengu!!! XD

One of the odder things I have noticed about Kid's cards is that the barrel of the gun is round, like a normal gun. When the cards come out they're not straight, they're either in an 'S' shape or a somewhat rolled shape.

If the cards were metal (or aluminium, as Ysabet theorises) wouldn't they then be closer to flying daggers/needles/blades then anything else?

Another thing I noticed recently was that in the manga, on the side of the gun he got from his father, towards the front, there's a triangle with a four-leaf clover on it, the same as the charm on his monocle.
Yet in the anime and more recent appearances, the gun is smooth and shiny, minus the little emblem.
Could there be more than one gun?

[shirokaze]

I noticed that too...Maybe Jii decided to take on a new hobby? **shrug** Either way, two card guns would be neat. But if there is two card guns...what would happen if someone got the other one?

[Mac]

Its just as likely that the animators from DC missed this little detail.

Even if they were aluminium, I have trouble thinking they can bury themselves into concrete. Also, arent the cards supposed to be non-lethal?

[moochan]

They're supposed to be, but then again I can only assume that the primary goal of the card gun was a form of protection. Maybe intimidation, as well because, like Icka said, the barrel of the gun is round and looks like a normal gun. Perhaps it was made so that if any wise ass decided to shoot at him he could bring it out and shock them with it, but not hurt them. Surprise and sting them yes, but not to hurt them--well, too badly, anyway.

So, we asume Orriginal Kaitou used it as an intimidation tecnique, and a partial defense. Present Kaitou uses it for intimidation, and, in some extreem cases or regular fanfiction, defese(ex: the robot that impesonated him and then tried to kill him, twice, Ysabets fics, I think once Icka's and many others, including my own.)

I just wanna throw this at the Mythbusters so they can figure it out for us.

[Last Wizard]

mischif said:

Another thing I noticed recently was that in the manga, on the side of the gun he got from his father, towards the front, there's a triangle with a four-leaf clover on it, the same as the charm on his monocle.
Yet in the anime and more recent appearances, the gun is smooth and shiny, minus the little emblem.
Could there be more than one gun?

The clover likes to mysteriously disappear; it's sometimes there and sometimes not....

The gun's appearance is also rather inconsistant; the two sides are completely different, but Aoyama seems to have a tendancy to use the design of one of the sides most of the time, no matter which side is facing the "camera". (It doesn't look like it's a matter of flipped scans, either...)

Also, on the possibility of there being more than one gun, it's probably just a design inconsistancy, but there are two different frame types that are used in the anime. One type has the middle section solid (used in the movies), the other type is rather skeletal, with only a few tubes connecting the front and back sections (used in episode 219 and the Crystal Mother OAV). The manga appears to only use the skeletal version, but it's hard to tell given the angles the gun is usually shown at.

(I've done way too much studying of Kid's gun lately... >_>)

[guest]

where can you find magic kaito manga scans? i really wanna see it. ^ ^

[Kudou77]

scottfab said:

Its just as likely that the animators from DC missed this little detail.

Even if they were aluminium, I have trouble thinking they can bury themselves into concrete. Also, arent the cards supposed to be non-lethal?

Yeah.. maybe those are cards of the gambler like Andy Lau's did.....
but still... it can't bury into the concrete...