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Post by Nyarl on Nov 21, 2006 18:08:47 GMT -5
A little round hole... looks like a gunshot wound if u ask me oo... Probably… However, it looks pretty much dead-on for his heart… (Maybe he was shot from an oblique angle?) I suppose he was trying to get a reaction from Ran or Conan about it, too. |
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Post by Meitantei Mina on Nov 21, 2006 23:23:38 GMT -5
It looks too clean to be a gunshot wound to me.... What about an arrow? Like the round tipped ones... that would probably leave a cleaner "hole" than gunshot...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2006 23:24:26 GMT -5
591 infos:
File 591 悪魔が来たりて Satan Came Enough (Satan has come enough(?))
Possible Suspect: Satan Oniduka, The river styx vocal(ist)
Yoko Okino is in it, the usual filling in Ai on what's been going on (like the snow case) but it looks like this should be a two file case really... Expect it up soon
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Post by Nyarl on Nov 22, 2006 0:02:24 GMT -5
It looks too clean to be a gunshot wound to me.... What about an arrow? Like the round tipped ones... that would probably leave a cleaner "hole" than gunshot... Could be. If he were stabbed/hit by something which stayed in place and plugged the wound, it would be plausibly survivable even if it hit his heart, provided no one pulled it out before getting him to the hospital. Heh, could just be a wart and Conan's reacting to something else… Can't really trust Aoyama not to pull a prank like that… I think gunshot entry wounds are supposed to be pretty regular/clean (not ragged), though. |
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Post by Meitantei Mina on Nov 23, 2006 1:27:49 GMT -5
It looks too clean to be a gunshot wound to me.... What about an arrow? Like the round tipped ones... that would probably leave a cleaner "hole" than gunshot... Could be. If he were stabbed/hit by something which stayed in place and plugged the wound, it would be plausibly survivable even if it hit his heart, provided no one pulled it out before getting him to the hospital. Heh, could just be a wart and Conan's reacting to something else… Can't really trust Aoyama not to pull a prank like that… I think gunshot entry wounds are supposed to be pretty regular/clean (not ragged), though. Depends on the range and type of gun. Now that I think of it, it could be a gunshot. Looking back at the forensics science week that we had in my school last year, I do recall very "clean" gunshot wounds... |
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Post by Nyarl on Nov 23, 2006 20:32:27 GMT -5
I think I've got it.
It's actually a tunneled catheter scar from chemotherapy for leukemia. His blood type changed from O to AB after a bone marrow transplant. His sister is Rena Mizunashi/Kir, who could give him AB blood for the later trauma, since he was actually type AB at the time (and still is).
(Mind, the last time I came up with something like that, I was way off… we'll see.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2006 21:12:53 GMT -5
Well that could be but neechan got me thinking that if he did have leukemia then he would have been repeatedly tested after his surgery and would know his blood type had changed.
But we'll see ^^
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Post by Meitantei Mina on Nov 23, 2006 22:39:44 GMT -5
I think I've got it. It's actually a tunneled catheter scar from chemotherapy for leukemia. His blood type changed from O to AB after a bone marrow transplant. His sister is Rena Mizunashi/Kir, who could give him AB blood for the later trauma, since he was actually type AB at the time (and still is). (Mind, the last time I came up with something like that, I was way off… we'll see.) I came up with the same theory, actually. The hole lines up exactly at the body of the sternum. And since Sternum is a flat bone, there is production of blood, and a lot of times with marrow transplant, they use sternum, since it's easiest to access. I dunno if blood type can change through transplant... I'll ask my teacher Monday. |
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Post by Misztina on Nov 24, 2006 6:33:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure, that a persons bloodtype can be changed at all.
Two hours ago I started to "investigate" bloodtypes and so on and don't know exactly how & why, but I began to think, that Eisuke may have a 'para-Bombay phenotype', which is "a rare phenotype reported in Europeans and Japanese individuals".
Unfortunately I don't understand much from the information I've collected(and there are not many useful infos too), so this is just an idea to explain why Rena could have given blood to Eisuke, although in normal cases it's not possible. If someone could look into this matter deeper... but maybe it's just a stupid thing. ._.
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Post by sakuranohanabira on Nov 25, 2006 14:51:04 GMT -5
Misztina Even if Eisuke had that "para-Bombay phenotype" thing I think his body still wouldn't be able to accept AB type blood I don't think it's possible for a person's blood type to change through transfusion. The blood would probably start "clumping" together (saw it in a science lab once but I forgot what the actual term for it was) when it mixes with incompatible blood and once it starts it's irreversible and ultimately the receiver dies from it. I always thought that the heart was just a little toward the left side of the chest (not in the immediate center) but there are probably other vital things where that marking is The marking on Eisuke looks very clean and precise so I think either an expert marksman got him(trying to kill him) or a doctor did some type of medical procedure on him(trying to save him) Too bad I don't know enough medical stuff to say for sure what probably happened. C'mon Aoyama-sensei tell us what Conan thinks of it already!! (as of yet, Conan is pretty much on target with his deductions)
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Post by Nyarl on Nov 25, 2006 18:14:16 GMT -5
Getting a bone marrow transplant from a donor with a different blood type would give the recipient the donor's blood type. They don't rely on ABO blood type to determine bone marrow donor compatibility, they test for other antigens. It's possible that someone with a blood type different from the patient is still a compatible bone marrow donor. Reference 1 (Third paragraph down from "The Donor" heading) Reference 2 (Fifth question) |
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Post by Meitantei Mina on Nov 25, 2006 20:08:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I think this increases the chance of the hole being from bone marrow transplant. For once we may have solved a "mystery" before Conan tells us the answer... that would be cool  |
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Post by sakuranohanabira on Nov 26, 2006 17:24:30 GMT -5
Wow!! I didn't know about the bone marrow thing  That opens a lot of possibilities for not just this case but maybe for other stuff in the future (any case relating to blood from now on) We'll just have to wait until Aoyama tells us to know for sure though...(he could have hyped us all up on that marking but for all we know, it just turn out to be ordinary, like a birthmark or something XP) |
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