mirey
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Post by mirey on Jul 22, 2010 11:17:46 GMT -5
Wow.... Agasa.... XD Actually it's a good idea for a plot twist, but no no no, it would be weird XDDDDDD About Heiji and Kazuha, we already saw their future in the 9th OVA - Stranger in 10 years. They will be together for sure ^_^
And I think Haibara should stay the way she is. She said it herself (Movie 4) that she wants a new start in life. Unlike Conan, she as Myano Shiho has no family, no friends to go back to, it's an empty world. Besides, don't underestimate the thought of having your childhood back. She is happy as Haibara Ai.
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Conan-kun
Little Detective
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Post by Conan-kun on Jul 23, 2010 12:06:51 GMT -5
It may be a possibility that Heji is a black organization spy, or at least he knew about them before he met Shinichi. Because in the english dub, he talks about how Gin and Vodka are killers, and how they are interested in him. Also in episode 130 when Haibara says that Shinichi has been part of their plan before he was born? I'm kind of curious on how that will all fit in. But I do believe that Conan, and Kaito will team up, and Conan will learn who he is but won't tell anyone because he'll understad why he does it. I also think that the APTX 4869 will have something to do with the constant murders around him. They mention it so much, and when Shinichi and Heji do the ski flash back thing they talk about how Shinichi always gets more mysteries. I also think I heard Haibara say something about defying death, something like that I'm not sure what episode or manga chapter. The English dub screwed up most of the lines so I'm not counting on them for references^^ I don't remember that though... Mind telling me which ep it was? Shinichi's just a murder magnet, I don't think it has anything to do with APTX4869. Another element to consider would be the Black Organization's hideout and their boss. How is it all going to end? Who will be involved? This is slowly turning into a speculations thread, so remember to discuss the ending, or this will just be considered as a duplicate, kay? ;D
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tml
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Post by tml on Jul 28, 2010 0:13:13 GMT -5
I have recently found some sources indicating that Ai would be killed by the BO toward the end, and that she would give Conan the ultimate antidote for APTX-4869 as she breathes her dying breaths.
Although this is not the type of ending that I hope for, it is currently difficult for me to envision what other future Ai may have.
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Conan-kun
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Post by Conan-kun on Jul 31, 2010 8:32:14 GMT -5
I have recently found some sources indicating that Ai would be killed by the BO toward the end, and that she would give Conan the ultimate antidote for APTX-4869 as she breathes her dying breaths. Although this is not the type of ending that I hope for, it is currently difficult for me to envision what other future Ai may have. Would you mind sharing those sources? I keep envisioning that Haibara might still work with the Organization. She obviously knows where their hideout is. And I doubt she'll reveal it anytime soon. In the end, who knows what will happen?
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Citan
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Post by Citan on Aug 1, 2010 1:05:52 GMT -5
While I enjoy all the "happy endings" put forth here I just wanted to share my ending idea, and it's not quite so happy.
It all hinges on something Ran told us in one of the movies. shinichi's favorite holmes quote :
"If i could be assured of your destruction, i would in the interest of the public, cheerfully accept my death."
This was spoken by Holmes who sacrificed himself to destroy moriarty. I think in the end Shinichi, or at least "Conan" will face down "Anokata" in a final showdown and sacrifice himself to destroy him and the Black Syndacate once and for all. this will lead to one of two endings.
Ending 1 : Shinichi dies to destroy Anokata. Ran barges in just as he's about to sacrifice himself and learns the truth. She pleads with him not to do it., but Shinichi will not be dissuaded. He calmly repeats his favorite Holmes line and tells her not to mourn for him, and to tell everyone how sorry he is that he has to leave them. the last scene would be Shinichi's funeral where by then the Black Syndacate has fallen and the truth has been released. Everyone says their final words and thanks Shinichi for his sacrifice.
Ending 2 : "Conan" dies to defeat Anokata. Ran doesn't barge in, and Shinichi though he appears to have died survives the above confrontation with Anokata and takes the permanant antidote returning to his true self. His secret is never revealed, the Black Syndicate crumbles, and a search is made for "Conan" but he is never found. Everyone believes "Conan" to be dead. Ran is distraught but Shinichi calms her down, telling her Conan is fine. We end with Shinichi saying "It's time, Ran. Time to tell you everything..."
Then during the credits we cna have shots of everyone as time passes. Kogoro and Eri getting back together, Sato and Tagaki getting married, if it's the Shinichi survives ending, Shinichi and Ran marrying, etc..
not exactly the soppy romantic endings others are invisioning, but these are just the ideas bopping around my head.
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kins
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Post by kins on Aug 2, 2010 5:37:33 GMT -5
I think DC will end with Shinichi defeating the Black Organization and getting married with ran afterwords and probably going to college together while solving cases like he was during his usual school days.
I heard that Shinichi will tell Ran that he is conan like around episode 800. And the series ends around episode 1000. Because i know for sure there about half way done. Which means they will finish around episode 1000. But im not sure if he will tell Ran the truth before the actual ending? Does anyone know if what i say is correct?
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tml
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Post by tml on Aug 28, 2010 2:19:12 GMT -5
Now that I've been away for a while, I'm now wondering about the following: with Ai's past affiliation with the Black Organization, I suspect that Japanese authorities would issue an arrest warrant for her if she survives after the Black Organization is taken down. Do you think this theory is plausible?
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Post by tmckinnin on Nov 5, 2010 7:13:22 GMT -5
here is my theory
First of has anyone ever considered the amount of people that shinichi has lied to once he tells the truth, especially ran, People won't like it, with that said- here is the ending Conan finally hears about the Boss of the BO then finds out where the HQ are based, he goes there to have one final showdown with the boss, with the help of his parents, agasa and AI, it all ends here, the climatic showdown. Conan tips off the police and FBI using his bowtie to surround the HQ and about their existence. They go there to ensure one escapes, he then realises that he need to tell the truth to ran and others once it’s all over Once inside, after taking down the operatives, he finds the original men who poisoned him in the first place alongside with the boss. He's hiding in the background overhearing their conversation, while this is going on, the police; FBI and Ai have their radio micas connected to Conan so that they can hear in. In the shadows is a small boy, the three are shocked, he then tells them that he is the boy who poisoned home. Conan then goes into tears and is angry about the people he had to lie to. (This speech goes on for a while) After dramatic speech, the boss orders them to take him out, after several fight scenes, coin uses his stun gun to put gin and vodka to sleep.
The boss confrontation takes up the whole episode, explaining why they did what they did and what is the BO, after failed attempts to get the boss, Conan blackmails him to give up or the police will come Then the boss has one more trick, he has attached bombs around the base taking him and Conan long with the base Shocked at this revelation, Conan then orders the police to storm and arrest any BO members Conan then uses his trainers to knock the detonator out of the boss’s hands as well as knocking him unconscious After a while, Ai tells that Antidote for APTX is under the bosses table in the safe, but before he can open said safe, the boss garbs hold of the detonator and about to blow up the base, the Up ends with cliff hanger We then see the boss is struggling that because he is already dying, Conan grabs quickly the antidote, thinking whether or not to leave him there or take him with him, guilt plays a part in this however he is reluctant to save him. However the base blows up with only seconds to spare before Conan is blasted out of the base. Everyone surrounds the boy having being injured ran is all upset see a glance at shinchi for a brief moment thinking Conan is shinchi
After a few days in hospital, conan wakes up to find Ran by his side, after realizing that he is alive and found that he is lucky to be alive, turns out that the antidote is still with him, He wakes up ran to tell her something, she is upset and glad that he is alive, with them being alone, it is time to tell her the truth and the secret comes out, Ran is stunned at this but after a few hours of explanation and misunderstandings, she comes round to his story,
He explained why he had to it so for that reason showed her the antidote that will permanently bring him back to his old body. Tells ran that Hattori, Agasa and Parents were all in this she is still upset that he told them instead of her but after listening, realises that in the long run it was for her own good Shinchi is back to his old self but must come to the realisation that he has to tell others first so he goes off to the police to tell his story, being shocked at this, they understand why so after telling them everything, its off to ran father and goes to explain that it was him that solved all the cases not him not Moore, (mori) at this point he is angry at this that he has been living here all this time, solving these cases one after another and finding that he is not a great detective once he thought was. Soon tension dies down tells him that he is still a detective just not a great one.
The two finally get together as a couple and promises that no more secrets between them and that he will always be by her side and will always protect her. There is a scene where we see Ai telling the other kids that Conan no more, turned out that it was shinchi, although mad about this, it was good reason, they can’t blame him for what he did. The final scene shows shinchi and ran together in a few yrs time, married and now living together, he is going of solving cases and she is there as his assistant, showing the two strong as a pair. What do you think?
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Post by tml on Nov 8, 2010 4:53:48 GMT -5
here is my theory First of has anyone ever considered the amount of people that shinichi has lied to once he tells the truth, especially ran, People won't like it, with that said- here is the ending Conan finally hears about the Boss of the BO then finds out where the HQ are based, he goes there to have one final showdown with the boss, with the help of his parents, agasa and AI, it all ends here, the climatic showdown. Conan tips off the police and FBI using his bowtie to surround the HQ and about their existence. They go there to ensure one escapes, he then realises that he need to tell the truth to ran and others once it’s all over Once inside, after taking down the operatives, he finds the original men who poisoned him in the first place alongside with the boss. He's hiding in the background overhearing their conversation, while this is going on, the police; FBI and Ai have their radio micas connected to Conan so that they can hear in. In the shadows is a small boy, the three are shocked, he then tells them that he is the boy who poisoned home. Conan then goes into tears and is angry about the people he had to lie to. (This speech goes on for a while) After dramatic speech, the boss orders them to take him out, after several fight scenes, coin uses his stun gun to put gin and vodka to sleep. The boss confrontation takes up the whole episode, explaining why they did what they did and what is the BO, after failed attempts to get the boss, Conan blackmails him to give up or the police will come Then the boss has one more trick, he has attached bombs around the base taking him and Conan long with the base Shocked at this revelation, Conan then orders the police to storm and arrest any BO members Conan then uses his trainers to knock the detonator out of the boss’s hands as well as knocking him unconscious After a while, Ai tells that Antidote for APTX is under the bosses table in the safe, but before he can open said safe, the boss garbs hold of the detonator and about to blow up the base, the Up ends with cliff hanger We then see the boss is struggling that because he is already dying, Conan grabs quickly the antidote, thinking whether or not to leave him there or take him with him, guilt plays a part in this however he is reluctant to save him. However the base blows up with only seconds to spare before Conan is blasted out of the base. Everyone surrounds the boy having being injured ran is all upset see a glance at shinchi for a brief moment thinking Conan is shinchi After a few days in hospital, conan wakes up to find Ran by his side, after realizing that he is alive and found that he is lucky to be alive, turns out that the antidote is still with him, He wakes up ran to tell her something, she is upset and glad that he is alive, with them being alone, it is time to tell her the truth and the secret comes out, Ran is stunned at this but after a few hours of explanation and misunderstandings, she comes round to his story, He explained why he had to it so for that reason showed her the antidote that will permanently bring him back to his old body. Tells ran that Hattori, Agasa and Parents were all in this she is still upset that he told them instead of her but after listening, realises that in the long run it was for her own good Shinchi is back to his old self but must come to the realisation that he has to tell others first so he goes off to the police to tell his story, being shocked at this, they understand why so after telling them everything, its off to ran father and goes to explain that it was him that solved all the cases not him not Moore, (mori) at this point he is angry at this that he has been living here all this time, solving these cases one after another and finding that he is not a great detective once he thought was. Soon tension dies down tells him that he is still a detective just not a great one. The two finally get together as a couple and promises that no more secrets between them and that he will always be by her side and will always protect her. There is a scene where we see Ai telling the other kids that Conan no more, turned out that it was shinchi, although mad about this, it was good reason, they can’t blame him for what he did. The final scene shows shinchi and ran together in a few yrs time, married and now living together, he is going of solving cases and she is there as his assistant, showing the two strong as a pair. What do you think? Sounds very nice, but it focuses too much on Shinichi & Ran and not enough on the other characters. I've pointed out, for example, that I have a hard time envisioning what the future holds for Ai if she manages to survive the Black Organization's demise. I now think that if the police were to find out about her past affiliation with the BO, they would probably issue an arrest warrant for her.
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Post by inlovewithshinichi on Dec 2, 2010 6:51:22 GMT -5
i dont wanna think about it.
I NEVER WANTED DETECTIVE CONAN TO END. i so love this show. o.O
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Post by sims10 on Jan 12, 2011 10:25:52 GMT -5
can any one guess, who will b the black organization boss?
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Post by smallfish on Mar 5, 2011 0:36:06 GMT -5
I also think that by the end of the series, Takagi and Sato will be together for the long-term. However, as I've said before, I believe Mr. Aoyama won't join them together until either the series ends for good or until one or more of them gets written out of the series.
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Post by Kudou77 on Mar 22, 2011 23:56:33 GMT -5
From my experiences read Aoyama-sensei's works, The ending of DC must be a happy ending. Conan will revert back to Shin'ichi and No Conan's relations will be died (Hakase, Ran, Kogoro, etc). And Kaitou KID finally found his father's murderer (must be one of Black org's member)
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Post by tzswei on Apr 1, 2011 6:31:18 GMT -5
I agree, I think the ending is good one. for one thing it's likely: (my theory) All below is theory, based on logic and facts I build up to come up with ideas which may likely happen. I don't know the plot in future, but I'm connecting the dots. 1)the reason Shinichi's parents move to America somehow related to Black Organization. 2)The boss is likely to be related to Sonoko's family, as he often introduce to be minor character. 3)If Ran hold hostage, it's likely not to be kidnapped by Black Organization, by Professor Agasa to let Shinichi confront the enemy. Agasa turn out to be a good guy and somehow has his own plan to bring down organization with people who know Shinichi behind Shinichi's back. (My theory!) 4)i think there's a case that relate to Black Organization which will lead to climax. (again, theory) 5)There's a new detective, Sera, will somehow involve as well, she's clever and cunning to figure out, play a major role in the climax. (don't you think she's another Haittori who can be persistent of truth?) 6)There's bound to be misunderstanding happen if Ran accidentally eavedropped Sera and Shinichi is somehow related, as this lie turn out to be cover story for Sera to use when talk to Ran! (my theory, I've read the latest manga so I have suspicion of Sera play a major role soon.) 7)Heiji will be asked by professor to help and police already figure out who is Conan but he doesnt know they playing along. XD (theory, they are asked to protect conan and figure out the truth themselves. but I think they don't buy fact so Shinichi will tell them in person.) 8) Kogoro knows Conan is evil boy as he already see in person Conan always put him in sleep. XD He does show concerns, believe the needle is the alibi to prove Conan is Jimmy. I think he doesn't have a heart to tell Ran Conan is Jimmy, wants to hear Conan tell personally about the needle and his personality as Shinichi. He may already figure out Conan/Jimmy is in trouble Lastly, he will find his own theory turn out to be farfetched until Shinichi proved himself. (theory) 9) Haibara don't see the future to be adult, but this remain a mystery based on events and plot which will be drawn in future. 10)The detective kids have seen conan using bowtie, hear him talk about being shrunk, somehow suspect Conan is in trouble and don't understand. I think they handle well if Conan told them truth, confirming their suspicions, Ayumi turn devastated. 11)Akai will make appearance, telling truth, bring down organization with Conan. 12)Conan don't trust Jodie anymore. I also admit, her serious look in the toilet resemble Vermouth before got caught by bank robbers. It's way uncanny. 13) Real FBI work in dark and Sera is somehow related? Akai is known dead. Jodie is sometime look a bit like Vermouth. Bourbon turn up. Sera make herself known to Ran as she know their identity. It's very fishy. Sera may have seen Conan in America, watching him on tv. And CBI spy in BO likely to contact other person for lending hand, one of them is likely Bourbon or Sera. there's a hidden story behind, and Bourbon is in position to reveal shocking truth about shrinking pill's antidote! (Dots connected) 14) I feel Gosho will reveal more new important characters as they are important figure come to connect the dot together, which may lead to climax. 15) The organization is big... manpower counts.... Gosho has introduce Sera and Bourbon. I think this is the reason why the manga is long, Conan and Heiji aren't doing it alone, I believe there's war soon, Conan has his own new team unconsciously and strikes back in the dark. yeah, I think there's happy ending.
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Post by Azulfre on May 7, 2011 14:27:14 GMT -5
The perfect ending I've always invisioned with DC is probably more complicated than will ever happen, or possibly than most think about. Haha. The elements are as follows:
- The Black Organization figures out that Sinichi is Conan and sends an agent to take him out but fails. Consequentially they kidnap Ran to bring Conan to them.
- Conan is talking on the phone to Professor Agasa about the Black Organization and Ran's kidnapping when the line goes dead. He looks up to find Mouri standing over him.
- Mouri asks him who the Black Organization is and Conan makes his usual silly excuse to seem like he said something else. Mouri slams his fist on the desk and says "NO! You know who they are. Where have they taken Ran?" Conan manages to say he doesnt know where. Mouri replies, "You're Koudo Sinichi, how can you not know?"
- As Conan is dumbfounded Mouri reveals how he figured out Conan was Sinichi. His body built up an immunity to the sleeping toxin because it was used so much. When he woke up once and heard his own voice deducing, he feinged that he was still sleeping and listened. He put the pieces together and realized it was Conan doing all this. Knowing that Conan has always had a higher intellect he researches into Conan Edogawa and figures out there is no such someone, and that he appeared right after Sinichi disappeared. Also to clue him in was the way Conan lept into save Ran all the time.
- Mouri had wanted to confront him, being who he is, but also having learned some wisdom from the time Conan joined them began to investigate on the sly and figure out why Sinichi would turn into Conan in the first place. He never figures it out, but Conan reveals to him what happened after being denounced and tells him what he knows of the Black Organization
- They call Dr. Agasa and Ai and Hattori in to help them and they put thier heads together and start solving the clues to where Ran is hidden.
- As they put a plan into motion to get her out and stop the Black Organization both the Police and the FBI get involved and meet each other.
- The Detective Boys feel resentment at being left behind and secretly stow away and later add complications to the mix.
Then one of two things happen.
- Either Haibara finds the Black Organizations research into the APTX4869, reverts Conan to Sinichi and he stops the leader of the Black Organization
- Or Conan stops the leader of the Black Organization and then Haibara finds the research and reverts him back. (To Ran's joy and Ayumi's Sorrow) I prefer this one because I envision Conan confronting the Leader and he speaks to him as if he's Sinichi and Ran is in the room and finds out from the Bad Guy's lips. Which makes everything harder.
Epologue shows Ran and Sinichi's wedding in the future with his parents there, Ran's Parents, the whole cast, and the Junior Detective League as teenagers. With maybe Ayumi dating Genta and Mitsuhiko dating Ai or something like that. At the very end it shows Mouri fumbling at asking Eri to get back together with him and she makes him think that shes going to say no, then surprises him and says yes.
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