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Post by Tui on Dec 1, 2004 19:25:39 GMT -5
Hmmmm......well tui, time travel isn't suppose to be created in the first place. It isn't suppose to exist in nature itself that it would let us travel back time. If technology would one day create a machine like this... They should be efficient enough to create something so that when we time travel opur actions won't be recorded in history. But it would still have already happened right. Because even if you erased all traces you would have still BEEN there. So you can't really erase all traces because you remember it and you still exist.
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Post by Tui on Dec 1, 2004 19:27:07 GMT -5
, what would happen if you went back in time and killed your grandpa?... But you didn't because you still exist right? Maybe you thought about it but you didn't.
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Post by Shiho on Dec 2, 2004 10:41:38 GMT -5
Thats why I said it a paradox might happen if you DID. ;D
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Post by Tive on Dec 2, 2004 13:12:33 GMT -5
But you didn't because you still exist right? Maybe you thought about it but you didn't. LOL! Well, you see, that's because most of the time I got along just *fine* with my grandpa's!
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Post by Tui on Dec 2, 2004 17:24:08 GMT -5
Thats why I said it a paradox might happen if you DID. ;D No I'm saying it wouldn't happen because you still exist. You couldn't have killed him because you wen't back in time right.
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Post by Shiho on Dec 3, 2004 8:28:30 GMT -5
There are two beliefs in time travel.
The first one, is the one that Tui said.
The second one, the one that i said.
More to say concepts, right?
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Post by Tui on Dec 3, 2004 15:21:07 GMT -5
O well I guess no one will ever know...
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Post by InuYasha on Dec 5, 2004 0:28:53 GMT -5
Scientificly it is possible to go into the future, but not in the past.
InuYasha
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Post by Tive on Dec 5, 2004 8:25:54 GMT -5
Scientificly it is possible to go into the future, but not in the past. InuYasha Actually, a long time ago I read an article in a scientific magazine that claimed that theoretically it *is* possible to go back in time... However, you don't wanna know *how* ! ! ! It depended on being able to find a so-called "black hole / anti-black hole pair", which is interesting by itself even, in that I'm not sure such a thing even exists... Anyway, you needed to be able to do some things that are so hard that I'm not sure it'd be worth the bother, even if you could eventually do it...
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Post by InuYasha on Dec 5, 2004 12:10:08 GMT -5
This was recent though when I heard about the new scientific find.
InuYasha
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Post by Tive on Dec 5, 2004 12:45:11 GMT -5
Hmmm.... Which find would that be? Not saying it isn't so, mind, personally I think changing the past shouldn't be possible... Just wondering which new scientific find / theory also says that ain't possible.
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Post by Tui on Dec 5, 2004 15:14:12 GMT -5
I think I know what your talking about Tive... Is it a wormhole?? Because (theroeticly) If you entered a Black Hole, and the Black Hole was connected to a white Hole, you would have a wormhole. And what's cool about the white hole is that you could be spit out not only anywhere, but also anywhen. So if your white hole was in the past 10 years or in the future 10 years about 2 miles from earth tthen thats where you would get put. Ten years in the past or future 2 miles from earth. ^,^ I'll have to check on how you would be able to survive the Black hole though.
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Post by InuYasha on Dec 6, 2004 0:00:26 GMT -5
Hmmm.... Which find would that be? Not saying it isn't so, mind, personally I think changing the past shouldn't be possible... Just wondering which new scientific find / theory also says that ain't possible. It was in the top stores in the Science section on Yahoo, but I can't remember how long ago it was. I want to say it was released less than six months ago, but I'm not for sure. InuYasha
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Post by Tive on Dec 6, 2004 7:45:46 GMT -5
It was in the top stores in the Science section on Yahoo, but I can't remember how long ago it was. I want to say it was released less than six months ago, but I'm not for sure. InuYasha Hmmm... I think I've found an article like what you're saying. It says something about Einstein's works leading others to come up with so-called 'closed time-like curves'... which scientists using super-string theory have proved would be impossible to enter. I guess I'm just not wild about that way of disproving anything, since who says that some other theory isn't going to come along later that either invalidates super-string theory or adjusts it in such a way that entering one of those closed time-like curves becomes possible again?
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Post by Tive on Dec 6, 2004 7:55:42 GMT -5
I think I know what your talking about Tive... Is it wormhole?? Because (theroeticly) If you entered a Black Hole, and the Black Hole was connected to a white Hole, you would have a wormhole. And what's cool about the white hole is that you could be spit out not only anywhere, but also anywhen. So if your white hole was in the past 10 years or in the future 10 years about 2 miles from earth tthen thats where you would get put. Ten years in the past or future 2 miles from earth. ^,^ I'll have to check on how you would be able to survive the Black hole though. Well, if a black hole / white hole pairs exist and they're called wormholes, then that's what I'm talking about. However, if memory serves the article I'm thinking about didn't claim you could get out of the wormhole anywhere, you'd get out of it where the white hole is... But in order to travel back in time, even with a wormhole, it would still be necessary to use 2 super conducting iron spheres, pass one thru the black hole and over to the white hole, and then keep both of them a certain distance from either the white or the black hole, and then start rotating either one or both of them in certain directions, depending on which direction in time you wanted to go... Let's just say that IMO it would be *extremely* difficult to hold two such spheres in their designated places, not to mention all the other stuff. And even if you could, I'm not sure that that theory says that you can go back in time further than when the time machine was created. So even if it is possible, it's practical value might be rather small... OTOH, I've often wondered, what does a white hole look like? Are they suns, perhaps?
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