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Post by Meitantei Mina on Dec 27, 2004 21:33:46 GMT -5
Post questions that pop into your head from reading the DC manga or watching the anime. Those who know the answer can quote the question and post the answer in this thread.
I haven't read all the manga (concidering scans online is the only way I can read them), so I have some questions. Some of those question is probably going to be like an opinion, but I want to know what you guys think about it. Ok, here they are:
-- Why doesn't Conan take those 24 hour pill that Haibara created? Being scientist, Haibara must have recorded how to make it, so she can create more. Conan could have turned back to Shinichi in safe time and go see Ran to make her stop worry.
-- What (or what do you think) was Shinichi going to tell to Ran in the sight-seeing resturant, if he hadn't turned back to Conan?
-- Why doesn't Vermouth tell Gin/Black Organization that Kudo Shinichi is alive as Edogawa Conan?
--It was Vermouth who was listening to the bug placed in Dr. Asaga(sp)'s house, right?
Now post YOUR questions, or answers to questions above. Like I said, it doesn't have to be exact asnwer, just your opinion.
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Post by _____ on Dec 27, 2004 21:55:42 GMT -5
sorry, but i havent seen/read enough to answer much, and i only have MORE questions about yuor questions! lol ok, Haibira made pills to change back? when was that? and since SHE made the poison, i dun see why she can't make na antidote, ike a permanent and she has Agasa to help her.. haven't seenread that one is Vermouth the other guy that's with Gin all the time? and when did he found out Shinichi's identity? don't now about that either sorry, i dunno much but since i have only seen movies 1 - 5 in japanese, and only have watched the dubbed episodes on adult swim (1 - 40), im not familiar withall of the japanese names. Can someone give me a list of Japanese names, the english name if ya know it, and a description? thanks
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Post by Meitantei Mina on Dec 27, 2004 22:05:29 GMT -5
The answers to your questions will be a spoiler to you, since you haven't read the manga or seen all espidoes. If you still want to know, scroll down.
-- Vermouth appears later in the manga/anime. She's part of Black Organization and seems to know the "boss" of the organization. She found found Haibara and Conan's(not sure, but I think she knows) true identity and tried to kill Haibara, but failed. Later, she promised to Conan that she would give up trying to kill Sherry/Haibara.
-- You know that screencap you have in your signature with Haibara pointing gun? That's the episode Conan turned back to Shinichi. Haibara managed to create and pill and Conan decided to test it, since Ran was extremely close to finding Conan's true identity (and I mean extremely close. She saved Conan/Shinichi's life because she believed Conan was Shinichi). Shinichi though the pill might be permenate, since it lasted more than few hours. But he turned back to Conan, so the pill only lasts 24 hours.
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Post by Mahotou on Dec 27, 2004 22:14:14 GMT -5
-- Why doesn't Conan take those 24 hour pill that Haibara created? Being scientist, Haibara must have recorded how to make it, so she can create more. Conan could have turned back to Shinichi in safe time and go see Ran to make her stop worry.1. It hurts ... (He's growing bones you know!) 2. she wont give it to him because he was being reckless late time she gave it to him ^^ -- What (or what do you think) was Shinichi going to tell to Ran in the sight-seeing resturant, if he hadn't turned back to Conan?I'm betting 100 buck on that he wanted to tell her he loved her!! *(I'm not literally betting any money though -- Why doesn't Vermouth tell Gin/Black Organization that Kudo Shinichi is alive as Edogawa Conan?She OWES him and Ran!! In Vol 35... remember the longed silver haired serial killer person? that was Vermouth in disguise! (she was disguied as the serial killer) Ran saves her from falling even though she would be saving a killer. And shinichi helps her... and there is also his cool quote!!! "why did you save me? WHY?!"-killer (Vermouth) "hum..*smile* Is a reason necessary? Even if I don't understand, why people kill people... But people saving people... doesn't need a reason, does it?"-Shinichi Me: KYAAAAAAAAAA <3 KAKOII YO!!! SHINICHI!!! ;D --It was Vermouth who was listening to the bug placed in Dr. Asaga(sp)'s house, right? If you mean this picture... mangaviewer.vrwarp.com/display.php?hmanga=2423ad417e8c69c9cf3bef74b3ddfe65&hchapter=1fc2b34410488a06250d6478e0f9f4fc&page=7then yes! If its a diffrent page you're talking about ... Please tell me what volume and what file! ^^
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Post by Meitantei Mina on Dec 27, 2004 22:21:40 GMT -5
*gasp* That serial killer was Vermouth!? I never knew that! (where does it say in the manga?) I loved what Shinichi said at that too ^_^ I think I'm gonna put that in my signature later(I was searching for good quote, since i don't have signature yet)
And yes, I was talking about that picture. (the first time I saw it, I thought it was Judie.. o.O )
Thanks for answering my questions ^_^
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Post by Mahotou on Dec 27, 2004 22:23:13 GMT -5
ok, Haibira made pills to change back? when was that? Tantei Mina answered that! and since SHE made the poison, i dun see why she can't make na antidote, ike a permanent and she has Agasa to help her..As said later in the book... HOW is she suppose to remember all that data! She had it on a disc but that disc was lost... she made the antidote (i think) through Conan's experience of turning back because of the White Chinese liquor that heiji gave him(Vol. 10) is Vermouth the other guy that's with Gin all the time? and when did he found out Shinichi's identity?Its SHE! ^^ and I think she knew for a while but i dont know when... It was before Volume 42 though! (I think she knew since vol 24) don't now about that either sorry, i dunno much but since i have only seen movies 1 - 5 in japanese, and only have watched the dubbed episodes on adult swim (1 - 40), im not familiar withall of the japanese names. Can someone give me a list of Japanese names, the english name if ya know it, and a description?Jimmy Kudo : Kudou Shinichi Rachel Moore : Mouri Ran Richard Moore : Mouri Kogorou Eva Kaden : Kisaki Eri George:genta Amy : Ayumi Mitch: Mitsuhiko Serena Sebastian: Suzuki Sonoko
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Post by Mahotou on Dec 27, 2004 22:25:07 GMT -5
*gasp* That serial killer was Vermouth!? I never knew that! (where does it say in the manga?) I loved what Shinichi said at that too ^_^ I think I'm gonna put that in my signature later(I was searching for good quote, since i don't have signature yet) And yes, I was talking about that picture. (the first time I saw it, I thought it was Judie.. o.O ) Thanks for answering my questions ^_^ I think in ep.345 She was pretending to be the serial killer to lure out Shuuichi (that failed though^^) And the Real Serial killer was found dead later...
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Post by _____ on Dec 27, 2004 22:29:15 GMT -5
wel, on the lsit, i know THAT much, but alot more people are talked about and i dunno who theynare.. lol
and i thoguht that Vermouth was the "GUY" that always liked tagged along with GIn everywhere. Like in movie 5, the guy that is always with Gin. and qhwn is Haibira introduced in the Anime? i have only seen episde 1 - 40 on Adult swim, and it's in a different order (evidently), so in which episode is she intoduced? ___________________ btw, why si noyjng in my quote that you did? and you spelled Suzuki Sonoko wrong (right?) and who's Shuuichi? (or did ya mean Shinichi?)
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Post by Mahotou on Dec 27, 2004 22:43:27 GMT -5
well, on the list, i know THAT much, but alot more people are talked about and i dunno who they are.. lol and i thought that Vermouth was the "GUY" that always liked tagged along with Gin everywhere. Like in movie 5, the guy that is always with Gin. and when is Haibira introduced in the Anime? I have only seen episde 1 - 40 on Adult swim, and it's in a different order (evidently), so in which episode is she intoduced? ___________________ btw, why is noyjng in my quote that you did? and you spelled Suzuki Sonoko wrong (right?) and who's Shuuichi? (or did ya mean Shinichi?) well, on the list, i know THAT much, but alot more people are talked about and i dunno who they are.. Give Examples Please!^^ ~~~~~~~~~~` Gin - long hair Vodka is the tag along-er ... he always wears sunglasses In mangaviewer.vrwarp.com/display.php?hmanga=2423ad417e8c69c9cf3bef74b3ddfe65&hchapter=64cf987884a20ff12987dcaf045c41d7&page=16Gin and Vodka are in the Car Vermouth is the one in the Telephone Booth ~~~~~~~~~~~` Haibara is introduced in the Anime at episode 129 "A University Professor and the Girl, Who Came From the Black Organization" A LONG time later... ^^''' ~~~~~~~~~~` btw, why is nothng in my quote that you did?I did that so the Letters wouldn't be so small and that people would know That I'm quoting!!^^ ~~~~~~~~~~ Ack I did not mean shinichi! ^^''''' ... Shuuichi is the guy holding a shotgun in this picture... mangaviewer.vrwarp.com/display.php?hmanga=2423ad417e8c69c9cf3bef74b3ddfe65&hchapter=64cf987884a20ff12987dcaf045c41d7&page=9He's part of the FBI just like Jodie-sensei! ^^
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Post by Meitantei Mina on Dec 27, 2004 22:51:27 GMT -5
Do you have idea of what volume it might be? Or at least what event was going on at that time. I just came up with more questions -- How did Shinichi's parents find out that Shinichi had shrunk? (My guess was that Dr. Asaga(how do you spell his name agian?) told them or something) --Why on earth do the parents let Conan/Shinichi stay in Japan if they know that Black Organization would kill him if they find out Conan's true identity? -- Do you think the parents know that Vermouth knows Conan's true identity? (My guess is that they don't)
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Post by _____ on Dec 27, 2004 22:51:34 GMT -5
lol THANKS! that really cleared up alot! sorry, but i can't reall think of any now.. can ya just make a list if.. like.. everyone you know? (if it's not too much trouble)
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Post by Mahotou on Dec 27, 2004 22:53:12 GMT -5
lol THANKS! that really cleared up alot! sorry, but i can't reall think of any now.. can ya just make a list if.. like.. everyone you know? (if it's not too much trouble) question what episodes have you watched?
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Post by _____ on Dec 27, 2004 22:57:16 GMT -5
Do you have idea of what volume it might be? Or at least what event was going on at that time. I just came up with more questions -- How did Shinichi's parents find out that Shinichi had shrunk? (My guess was that Dr. Asaga(how do you spell his name agian?) told them or something) --Why on earth do the parents let Conan/Shinichi stay in Japan if they know that Black Organization would kill him if they find out Conan's true identity? -- Do you think the parents know that Vermouth knows Conan's true identity? (My guess is that they don't) yes, in the episode - Conan is kidnapped - Prof. Agasa told tem, and tahts how they found out. ok, ill just quote what they said to help ya a bit. "Jimmy, we don't want you to continue yuor detective work, it's far too dangerous - come home with yuor father and me" Dad - "i have a contact high in the governemnt Ill give hima call, and have him look into the organization yuor after. But until then, stay with us, it's far too dangerous - (cut off) Conan/Shinichi - "no, this is my life and my case, i'll solve it myslef mom - "why jimmy?whats wrong? Tell us, Jimmy" Dad - "its allright dear, Jimmy's a young adult now, he can do what he wants" Mom - "but, Booker..." Dad - "Jimmy is old enough to make his desicions,a nd i think i know why he wants to stay, and it's not something thatc an be conrolled" Conan blushes When Conan is saying no, iwanna stay, a picture of Ran appears in the backround - telling you that tahts why he wants to stay,a nd taht that's why The dad(Booker is the dubbed name) let him saty. hope that cleared it up a bit!
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Post by Clams on Dec 27, 2004 22:57:38 GMT -5
Another reason why Ai won't let him take the temporary antidote because it has a risk of being fatal as well. Can you imagine how much stress that must put on your vitals? geez. Part of the reason I don't think Vermouth will ever try to kill Shinichi or Ran is because they actually made her feel, so to speak. They gave her an entirely new outlook on life. The last line spoken by Sharon in 35-4: "Tell Ran, that there really was an angel for me after all." after she had spent the entire case saying things like, "If there is such an existence like God, shouldn't all honest hard working people be happy? That's right, no angel has ever smiled upon me." I'd say that's a pretty big change in attitude. Another reason why I think Vermouth refuses to tell Gin or Vodka why they can't find the traitor Sherry, is because if they figured out that she shrunk, it would easily lead to Kudo Shinichi being found and executed as well. Along with her Angel. Vermouth has kind of taken it upon herself to protect them. There was one thing I caught in file 504, where she tells Gin that she's hearing a lot of static, then thinks back to seeing Conan earlier in the day and says "Nevermind." Of course, a tapping device would cause static in their cell phones and walkie-talkies, hinting them to the idea that there's a tracer in the car. Vermouth is the most ineresting bad guy in the series. I love her. And the guy that's always with Gin is Vodka. Do we ever know all that was on the tapes that Shiho's mother made? Like... right here for example:
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Post by _____ on Dec 27, 2004 22:58:56 GMT -5
question what episodes have you watched? ok, a little before Adult swim repeated the entire series up to episode 40, i wtached about 6 - 7 episodes, and ten the first 40 lol
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